Comments on: Frameworking http://www.sixtostart.com/blog/2007/12/11/frameworking/ We make games. Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:08:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Mike Whitaker http://www.sixtostart.com/blog/2007/12/11/frameworking/#comment-51 Mike Whitaker Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:14:21 +0000 http://www.sixtostart.com/blog/2007/12/11/frameworking/#comment-51 TMTOWIDI with Catalyst, true. BUT, and it's a big but, there IS an accepted way (Template Toolkit for your views, DBIx::Class for your models), and quite frankly development using that absolutely screams along. For the last Yahoo! Hack Day I built a Catalyst app from scratch to emulate another RESTful interface within the company in about 10 hours, most of which was wire-sniffing the REST protocol :) You'll find that's what most folks use, that's what the book ( http://catwiki.toeat.com/thebook ) advocates, and it just plain works. There's maybe half a dozen concepts you need to get your head round to do basic CRUD, and then wham. Where TMTOWTDI scores is that when some bright spark of a CTO says 'we must do user auth by talking to a Radius server', or 'all our web content is stored on a WebDAV server', you can leverage the wonders of CPAN to replace your model class with one that DTRT. TMTOWIDI with Catalyst, true.

BUT, and it’s a big but, there IS an accepted way (Template Toolkit for your views, DBIx::Class for your models), and quite frankly development using that absolutely screams along. For the last Yahoo! Hack Day I built a Catalyst app from scratch to emulate another RESTful interface within the company in about 10 hours, most of which was wire-sniffing the REST protocol :)

You’ll find that’s what most folks use, that’s what the book ( http://catwiki.toeat.com/thebook ) advocates, and it just plain works. There’s maybe half a dozen concepts you need to get your head round to do basic CRUD, and then wham.

Where TMTOWTDI scores is that when some bright spark of a CTO says ‘we must do user auth by talking to a Radius server’, or ‘all our web content is stored on a WebDAV server’, you can leverage the wonders of CPAN to replace your model class with one that DTRT.

]]> By: Andres Quijano http://www.sixtostart.com/blog/2007/12/11/frameworking/#comment-26 Andres Quijano Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:39:27 +0000 http://www.sixtostart.com/blog/2007/12/11/frameworking/#comment-26 Nope, I haven't used Grails in a real production envorionment. A new framework (along with the language) that look very promising (although today it's in early development) is Lift, built on Scala: http://www.liftweb.net Nope, I haven’t used Grails in a real production envorionment. A new framework (along with the language) that look very promising (although today it’s in early development) is Lift, built on Scala: http://www.liftweb.net

]]> By: Ben http://www.sixtostart.com/blog/2007/12/11/frameworking/#comment-14 Ben Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:47:54 +0000 http://www.sixtostart.com/blog/2007/12/11/frameworking/#comment-14 Andres: If you've used Grails and think it's worth considering, I'd love to hear your comments. Andres: If you’ve used Grails and think it’s worth considering, I’d love to hear your comments.

]]> By: Andres Quijano http://www.sixtostart.com/blog/2007/12/11/frameworking/#comment-13 Andres Quijano Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:31:55 +0000 http://www.sixtostart.com/blog/2007/12/11/frameworking/#comment-13 How about JRuby on Rails? or Grails (http://grails.codehaus.org) How about JRuby on Rails? or Grails (http://grails.codehaus.org)

]]> By: Steff http://www.sixtostart.com/blog/2007/12/11/frameworking/#comment-4 Steff Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:36:50 +0000 http://www.sixtostart.com/blog/2007/12/11/frameworking/#comment-4 Now I come to think of it, I recall Toby mentioning Ravenous as being interesting: http://ravenous.solidosystems.com/ - it should be scalable as all hell if nothing else. Now I come to think of it, I recall Toby mentioning Ravenous as being interesting: http://ravenous.solidosystems.com/ - it should be scalable as all hell if nothing else.

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